The Electra Amsterdam is a colorful beast (I use the term "beast" with an affectionate intention) with a 3-speed Shimano Nexus internal hub. It has a rear coaster brake and a front hand brake, providing enough stopping power for city riding purposes. It is also equipped with a rear rack, bell, battery powered tail light and bottle driven head light.
While riding this bicycle, I feel happy - literally, I can't stop smiling. It is almost as though it creates a good mood, even if I'm feeling a bit grouchy. It also rides large. What I mean by this is that it feels very expanded. The rider sits back (part of Electra's "flat foot technology," no doubt) and there is a lot of room between the saddle and the handlebars. It feels big, but comfortably so. The handlebars sit wide and I'm always relaxed when riding this bicycle. The saddle is comfortable for short distances and is made of a leatherette material. For longer rides, I find the saddle uncomfortable, but for sub-6 to 8 mile rides, it works just fine.
Even the Amsterdam's saddle is fun! |
The rear rack is rated to carry up to 25 pounds (a bit over 11 kg). In all reality, for many this is not a high enough rating to use this to haul groceries and other heavier items. While it is doable, I would prefer a higher rating for instances when I have more of a full load to carry. For anyone wondering about the frame, it is made of aluminum and the fork of steel. I am not normally a fan of aluminum bicycles (particularly for a city bike), but this one seems to do the job without creating hand vibrations, which is my biggest concern with aluminum.
The Bella Ciao and Electra are just about as different as two of the same "type" of bicycles can be in many respects. On the surface, they seem to be a similar bike, but when digging in the rider can definitely see and feel the differences. The Bella Ciao feels petite and bird like when riding. The handlebars sit narrower (coming in closer toward the body) and the seating position has the rider positioned more directly over the pedals. When riding the Bella Ciao I feel proper, for lack of better phrasing at the moment. I sit up high and more vertical, versus the relaxed position of the Electra. The saddle is made of leather, is narrower (and thinner), but is much more comfortable over longer distances.
Bella Ciao saddle vs Electra Amsterdam saddle |
Both bicycles come with fenders and a full chain guard, however, only the Electra has a skirt/coat guard on the rear wheel. This is not a huge deal to me, but could make a difference for some. Also, adding a skirt guard to the Bella Ciao is possible, so it shouldn't be a deciding factor necessarily. The grips on these bicycles are different as well. The Bella Ciao has cork grips while the Electra has coordinating leatherette grips. Personally, I prefer the cork (both for its looks and comfort), but I think that each seem to go with their respective frames, and I don't find either offensive.
Bella Ciao cork grips vs Electra leatherette grips |
On the Bella Ciao, the lighting system is part of the hub and the rider simply flicks an on switch to activate the head light. In the case of the Bella Ciao, it also powers the tail light, preventing any need to replace batteries. While this system seems ideal, the hub on the Bella Ciao creates a drag (even when it isn't on), which I initially thought was only in my head. I had a reader contact me who also owns this model and expressed similar concerns. She ended up taking her bicycle to her local shop where she learned that the the hub is a lower end model and the head light is a halogen light (rather than an LED light). Between the two items, it causes a dragging sensation as well as requiring more juice to generate the power for this particular light. To summarize, even when the light isn't on, it is still creating a drag, and when it is on, it needs more power.
Both of these bicycles have rear coaster brakes. In the past, I have always had coaster brake bicycles and they never seemed to bother me. Over the last 1.5-2 years, however, I have not owned a bicycle with a coaster brake, and unfortunately is isn't something I have easily become used to again. Because I am so incredibly klutzy, and have to start with a particular foot in the "correct" position, using the coaster brakes hasn't been my favorite experience. I have found myself using only the hand brake, which in turn causes me to pedal slower if there is a good deal of traffic, or if I think I may need to stop abruptly.
There are other differences (that can make a big difference to some riders) such as the tires, the bell (the brass bell on the Electra is a replacement - it comes with a coordinating colored bell), the shifting systems (Sturmey-Archer vs Shimano) and the pedals, but really it all comes down to what works for the rider. Personally, I am conflicted about each of these bikes. I have owned an Electra Amsterdam in the past and I sold it for a reason - it just wasn't what I was looking for in a bicycle. I didn't like the saddle for slightly longer distances, and replacement saddles weren't working for me (though I have learned much about saddles since that time). I also didn't like that it was so difficult to attempt to stand up and pedal on it due to body positioning. That said, it was probably my most ridden city bicycle because it was easy to use and not horribly heavy. I do currently own the Bella Ciao and have considered selling it - but for different reasons. It rides well, is functional as a city bike, and is quite beautiful. However, I am not certain it is the right bicycle for me. There are days when I ride it and think, "How could I get rid of this?" and there are other days when I just don't feel comfortable on it and think that it could find a good home with someone who would appreciate it and ride it more regularly.
I haven't figured out the answer for myself just yet. There are certainly pros and cons to a decision to move on to another bike; however, I also know that changes could be made to the Bella Ciao to make it more appropriate for me. I could take off the coaster brake and replace it with a roller brake, I could remove the dynamo hub and opt for a higher end model or remove the system all together and use battery operated lights, but in the end I question the additional costs versus either keeping the bike as is or selling it to someone who is looking for this very type of set up. With any decision, I have concerns and wonder whether the pocket book can handle any choice I make. In time, I am certain the right decision will make itself known, and in the mean time, I have the great fortune of riding two very interesting city bikes a bit longer.
Oh man, I hope that if/when you decide to sell the Bella Ciao, I suddenly and serendipitously come upon $1000+. I loved the Bella Ciao when I tried it out and it absolutely made it onto my Ideal Bike List.
ReplyDeleteI, too, noticed the drag. Replacing it with a bottle dynamo might be an option, as well as installing a higher-end model.
:O) Lauren, you will definitely read about it here if it does end up in the sell category. I was hoping to ride it today, but we woke up to about a foot of snow on the ground, so it may have to wait. I'm not entirely sure what to do about it - and don't know if I want to invest more into the bike or sell it to someone who will enjoy it as-is (or who can put the money into it). Time will definitely tell.
ReplyDeleteIf you do intend to sell I will be interested in purchasing.
ReplyDeleteI have a barely ridden Bella Ciao Superba available for sale. I hate to part with such a beautiful bike but it makes sense for it to go to someone who will use it. Please contact me for additional info.
ReplyDeletedo you still have this bike?
DeleteI would love to know if you still have this bella ciao superba. Looking for one!
ReplyDeleteI'm looking to sell mine...used under 50 miles and all original parts and almost mint condition. Located in SF CA. -Mariana (marianareynolds at gmail dot com).
DeleteI really love this blog! I have just recently come across it. I myself am thinking of buying a Bella Ciao mens bicycle- they are a LOT more money here in the UK though over their competitors. One thing I am really hoping you might be able to answer for me- it would really help me- is I am wondering if the weights that Bella Ciao quote on their website for their bikes are actually accurate in the real world? The mens Ingegenere bike apparently only weighs about 10kg according to their website which seems wonderful but also..a little implausible!! A comparable very lightweight Gazelle- the Van Stael weighs approximately 14kg. The thing is, the price difference between the two bikes is about £1000!! Quite a lot to pay for the 4kg..I just want to make really sure that they really are the weight they say. I did read somewhere that in real life they are a bit heavier than the weights they quote..Thanks so much for your fab blog! Happy riding to you both :)
ReplyDeleteHello, and I'm glad you found this post. Hopefully, it can be at least somewhat helpful in your search. I must be honest in expressing that it's been quite a few years now since I've ridden the Bella Ciao, so my memory may not be entirely accurate; however, I want to try to help as best I can. Although I never weighed the Bella Ciao, I would guess that it was somewhere around 35lbs/15-16kg (as a rough estimate). This particular model was a collaborative between Velouria of the former Lovely Bicycle and Bella Ciao, so I don't know what type of changes were done in comparison to the standard models.
DeleteYou state that you are in the UK. Is it possible for you to find a shop(s) that has(have) test models for you to ride before purchasing? I highly recommend testing as many brands and models as possible to ensure you find the right fit for your needs. What seems like it would be appropriate on paper (or screen) may not end up being the best bicycle in the end.
Best of luck in your search! :)
Thanks so much for your excellent and helpful reply :) I have found out for myself the hard way- just as you have- that test riding a bicycle before purchase is pretty much essential. I actually bought a mens Pashley Sovereign Roadster, which- whilst a lovely bike- has proven to be not the best bike for me in practice, mainly because of the WEIGHT!! It weighs around 23kg, which is not ideal if you are climbing hills- hence my interest in the Bella. Thanks for the answer about the weight of your old Bella, I am wondering what the actual listed weight was on their site in comparison to what you felt it weighed? I can't find a listing for that particular Bella. I have a feeling that the 9.8kg listed for the mens Ingegnere does not include gears etc! I think though now, that bearing in mind your excellent advice- I will hold off doing anything about buying another bike, and wait until I am in a position to hop over to Germany and actually try one out :) I would still like to know whether the weights they state are anywhere near to reality though, before I hop anywhere (!) as Gazelle Van Stael bikes are available here in the UK and are significantly cheaper than the Bellas, although weigh a bit more- but, perhaps not too much more...! Thanks again so much for your help, Happy cycling!!
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